Eistadion, Mannheim

Germany · Thursday 18 May 1978 · And Then There Were Three

48 years, 5 months and 22 days ago

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Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)
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1DVD-R
Quality
A-
Catalogue #
EFDVDG08
Rating ★★★★☆ 7.4/10 (17 ratings)
39 people have this recording
  1. Nationwide news programme. Includes clips from three European shows including Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Recording comments
Also includes bonus footage: German TV (5 minutes - including clips from Vienna Stadhalle and Ulm Summerfest) and Many Too May (alternate promo video). This is the 'trade only' EFDVD and is not available for download or vining - find someone who has it and make a trade (and a new friend!) [LivingForever]

The source for the main feature was a very low generation tape kindly supplied by Chris Davies - and it offers the best picture in terms of stability that we had come across, having none of the annoying dropouts that affect most versions of this. Hopefully you will not be fooled by the screenshot of the Dallas 77 clip from this DVD which is much worse quality than the rest of the film, I suspect the BBC did not have access to a particularly good master for that! The alternate Many Too Many video clip is the one as seen in the main feature, but with slightly better picture and redubbed sound from the Platinum Collection remix. The Vienna and Ulm clips extracted from a documentary about Phil Collins broadcast on German TV in 1996. Sources came from Chris Davies, Alan Hewitt and Dave Bowler, and the DVD was authored by Willem Beens with art from Azzy Artworks. [LivingForever]
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Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]
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Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)
46m total
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Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.2/10 (5 ratings)
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  1. Nationwide news programme. Includes clips from three European shows including Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Recording comments
Documentry featuring clips from Mannheim, Leiden and Knebworth
Show memories
Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]
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Genesis Collection 1978 (DVD)
1h 35m total
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1DVD+R
Quality
B+
Catalogue #
GMDVD 07
Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.0/10 (21 ratings)
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  1. (Stadthalle, Austria - 28-Aug-79) Clips And Interviews - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway / The Musical Box / In The Cage / Cinema Show / Afterglow - 18:46
  2. (Sun Plaza Hall, Tokyo - 03-Dec-78)Eleventh Earl Of Mar / Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet / Los Endos / I Know What I Like - 28:47
  3. (Three Dates With Genesis - 1978) Interviews And Clips From European Tour - 15:47
  4. (Unknown Source) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 14:57
  5. (Hamburg, Germany - 13-Jun-78) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 06:58
  6. (Durtmund, Germany - 14-Jun-78) 8mm Silent Footage With Dubbed Sound - 03:59
  7. (Stadthalle, Austria - 28-Aug-79) Clips And Interviews From Rebroadcast - 06:44
Recording comments
Does a good job of collecting up the 1978 material (although only the live portions of the 'Three Dates' documentary are included.) Unfortunately, there is no real "jewel in the crown" as with the other GMDVD releases so it's one of my less played, but still worth having! [LivingForever]

A full audience recording of the Leiden show exists and will likely surface soon. [earlofgenesis]

Yes, Leiden (in audio) should be released either just prior or just after the Christmas holiday. [MB]

Nice 8mm Footage, although they are all dubbed with Squonk and One for the Vine. Sadly the Dortmund Footage seems to end with a Light Show of Los Endos, if the filmer would have waited a few minutes, we could have had footage from the Suppers Ready Encore. And if you try to dub some parts, you will notice that there is Footage from "Fontain of Salmacis", actually the only one known. I Hope that Someday a Video footage will appear from Knebworth or Vienna, Just like it happened with the Lyceum gig. :-) [chinwildchicken]
Show memories
Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]
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Genesis Live
36m total
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Media
1LP
Quality
B+
Catalogue #
Davros LP 050 - Novisad
Rating ★★★☆☆ 6.0/10 (1 ratings)
1 people have this recording
  1. 1.1One For The Vine (ending)05:44
  2. 1.2In The Cage07:47
  3. 1.3Deep In The Motherlode05:42
  4. 2.1Follow You, Follow Me04:08
  5. 2.2Burning Rope07:30
  6. 2.3Ballad Of Big05:09
Recording comments
Notes from the torrent :

Known Issues No Intro's To Tracks

Got this LP in the 80s The Cover has the wrong track listing for the tracks on side one.
This is a short LP not seen it around alot.
There is a bit of confusion about the date the tour dates say they played Mannheim on this date, but all recordings of the Mannheim show
are dated as the day before the 17th as is the movement concert database. The Datebase gives this show as this date and venue.
Ive found a ticket from the Mannheim show that says the 18th and ive seen a ticket that says it is Koln also for the 18th.
Ive checked my recording of Koln on the 14th and this is not the same show. I have also checked all the other German Dates
on the tour and none seem to match this one. They did however play Radrennbahn,Koln on the 1st sept but there is no circulating recording from
that day so it could be from there. If anyone knows or can verify any info or went to any of theses dates please let us know.
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... And Then There Was Mannheim 78
2h 14m total
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Media
2CD-R
Quality
B-
Rating ★★☆☆☆ 4.0/10 (1 ratings)
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  1. 1.1Eleventh Earl Of Mar 09:20
  2. 1.2In The Cage 08:41
  3. 1.3Burning Rope 08:37
  4. 1.4Ripples10:41
  5. 1.5Deep In The Motherlode05:47
  6. 1.6Phil Talking01:17
  7. 1.7The Fountain Of Salmacis 09:55
  8. 1.8One For The Vine 10:59
  9. 2.1Squonk07:24
  10. 2.2Phil Talking01:05
  11. 2.3Say It's Alright Joe 06:54
  12. 2.4The Lady Lies 06:29
  13. 2.5Phil Talking05:07
  14. 2.6The Cinema Show 11:41
  15. 2.7Afterglow 04:44
  16. 2.8Follow You, Follow Me 05:14
  17. 2.9Dance On A Volcano / Drum Duet05:47
  18. 2.10Los Endos09:13
  19. 2.11I Know What I Like (cut)05:21
Recording comments
Notes from torrent :

This is a remaster of the original upload to Genesis Movement
Unknown gen tape
Taper: unknown




Processing:
flac files -> Magix Audio & Music Lab (edit/remaster) -> FLAC -> Genesis Movement
Some massive EQ was done. Especially the higher frequencies were lifted and middle frequencies taken down. Sound level adjusted.
Audience noise between songs lowered. Unfortunately by the EQ there is a quite some hiss. Also the sound is quite inconsistent through the recording (especially the first track). Sound improves halfway with track 7 and finally from track 8 on. The last track is cut after 5:21.
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Untitled recording
2h 16m total
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Media
2CD-R
Quality
B-
Rating ★★☆☆☆ 3.8/10 (5 ratings)
26 people have this recording
  1. 1.1Eleventh Earl Of Mar09:41
  2. 1.2In The Cage08:37
  3. 1.3Burning Rope08:24
  4. 1.4Ripples10:36
  5. 1.5Deep In The Motherlode06:57
  6. 1.6The Fountain Of Salmacis09:49
  7. 1.7One For The Vine10:22
  8. 2.1Squonk08:53
  9. 2.2Say It's Alright Joe06:55
  10. 2.3The Lady Lies11:06
  11. 2.4The Cinema Show11:29
  12. 2.5Afterglow04:39
  13. 2.6Follow You, Follow Me05:07
  14. 2.7Dance On A Volcano04:22
  15. 2.8Drum Duet01:17
  16. 2.9Los Endos09:03
  17. 2.10I Know What I Like09:35
Show memories
Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]
Parts of this show were filmed for inclusion in the BBC TV documentary Three Dates With Genesis [A Hewitt]

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EFDVDG08 - Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)

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Show memories · Three Dates With Genesis (DVD)

Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]

Show memories

Previously listed as 17-May-78. 18th is the corrected date [Simon_Funnell]
Parts of this show were filmed for inclusion in the BBC TV documentary Three Dates With Genesis [A Hewitt]